He also discusses using humor as a weapon and casting Sophia Lillis.
The Big Picture Dustin Guy Defa has made a name for himself in the independent film scene. His first feature, Bad Fever, premiered at South by Southwest in 2011, while his second, Person to Person, bowed at Sundance in 2017. Defa has a gift for honing in on rich, specific relationships, and he is known for his naturalistic directing style.
COLLIDER: Obviously, you've worked with Michael [Cera] and Hannah [Gross] before. I'm curious what made you eager to work with them again and also why Sophia [Lillis] felt like the perfect person to kind of round out that trio. It was such a great, wonderful thing how Sophia came into it. She came into the movie very quickly, and once the script was sent to her, it just happened very fast. It just seemed aligned. And then the first time we all met in person — we had done some Zooms together — but when we all met in person, and Sophia was with us, it really felt like we had the right three people. It felt like they were building something that would feel like a family — the right kind of family in this movie.
The first draft didn't have any poker, and Michael and I play poker together, and he's taught me how. Our conversations really taught me. He's a better poker player than me, and he knows poker better than me, and I've learned a lot about poker from him. But poker became one of the things that got added to this new script that became such an essential part of it. But that draft was really the movie, and it didn't change much after that time period.That's awesome.
I think I do, too. I feel like I see myself in all of them, which I think is a sign of a good movie when you can feel compassion, and there are aspects that you can relate to with all of them. Another thing I really like about this film is that it captures that specific language that different families sort of speak with each other. I think for them, obviously, song and dance is huge.
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