New documentary 'When Lambs Become Lions' follows elephant poachers and the rangers trying to stop them.
Kasbe spent three years in Kenya amassing more than 700 hours of footage for the film. In this time, he forged strong bonds with the people he was documenting, embedding with them for months at a time. And in return, they granted him extraordinary access into their lives.
Each side faces its own existential crisis. For the hunters, poaching is dangerous work and has only become harder since a Kenyan government crackdown in 2016, which was announced with a huge public burning of ivory.Asan meanwhile—who had a child during the making of the film—hasn't been paid in months as the ranger service grapples with limited resources.
They were saying this issue is being taken out of Kenya and funneled through a kind of black and white Hollywood style narrative of good-versus-evil, right. And they kept telling me that's not actually what's going on. The reality of the situation is much more complex, but no one is embracing that complexion.
I saw this as a collaboration. I didn't see this as me coming in with a vision telling their story. This was them trusting me to be around to collect things and put it together in a way that resembled what the reality was like. And part of that was me being like,"If there's ever a time you don't want me to film, you can tell me and I'll stop filming. If I ever film something that you don't want to exist, you can tell me and we can delete it together.
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