After helping his father Phil wind down his live career, Nic Collins discusses his current full-time project and the possibility of a Genesis reunion tour with Peter Gabriel.
He’s beginning that process by releasing the new Better Strangers single “But I Don’t Know Your Name” and by booking intimate gigs across America and the U.K. The group features his longtime friends Yang Waingarten and Joey Rodriguez along with lead singer deCasa. “We’re at the stage of the band where we really need to grind it out,” he says, “and cut our teeth.”
Back then, it would have been What You Know. Honestly, this project has been a continuation of bands I’ve been in for years with our bass player, Yang Waingarten, and guitar player, Joey Rodriguez. We’ve seen each other grow and dial in more with what our sound is instead of just imitating people we really liked.
You’re a bit more hands-on and a bit more involved with the process. It’s different. I don’t really directly compare them since it’s two different phases of a band. I’ve learned how touring works on a high scale. I’ve seen all the pieces of the puzzle and how they fit together. It’s a side you don’t usually get exposed to until you’re there with your own band. But to see the end result, it gives you the perspective of how you get there.
That reflected the set we ended up doing. We couldn’t flood the set with as much instrumental stuff as there used to be since he can’t play drums. That was such a big part of that instrumental side of Genesis. Honestly, when Tony and Mike came to a few gigs, and Mike and the Mechanics were opening for one of the European legs we did, and he came onstage and did “Follow You, Follow Me” with us, I think that really got the rumor mill going. At the end of that tour, they had a meeting.
When it first got kicked off, there was a laundry list of song and who wanted to do what. The three guys in the band had three different opinions of the songs they thought we should do. With “Supper’s Ready,” the “Apocalypse in 9/8” part of the song onward was mentioned. I learned it. It took me months and a lot of broken drum sticks in frustration, but I did learn it. I finally did. And we never rehearsed it, which is kind of funny.
It’s also a production decision. Every song in the set, musically or production-wise, did something that none of the other songs did. I think it was about, I guess, cutting the fat of the set and making everything extremely significant in terms of the set. Also, not a lot of bands get to say that they finished their careers on a high. A lot of bands just sort of fade out. And a lot of bands that were big 30, 40, 50 year ago are still going on the road, but they’re playing convention centers. The fact that they were able to bow out on a real high in their hometown was really special to them, but also special to us. It was a relief that we were able to do the shows we were supposed to do in October, but got delayed due to Covid.
I don’t think so. From where I am at the moment, I don’t think that would happen. I haven’t heard anything about it. I know it was mentioned by fans, especially at the early stages of the reunion. But I think ultimately the band has grown and people have gone and done their separate things. I don’t think, at the moment, that it’s a possibility.I think Covid is really what changed everything. If it wasn’t for Covid, maybe the tour would have lasted way longer.
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