Mike Pence, pondering a presidential run, condemns Trump's rhetoric on Jan. 6

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Mike Pence, pondering a presidential run, condemns Trump's rhetoric on Jan. 6
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.NPRinskeep asked former Vice President Mike Pence if Donald Trump was a good man. Pence replied at considerable length without ever saying that he did. He said only that Trump had authored important achievements but was 'wrong' on Jan. 6.

The common denominator for me was that Republicans who articulated their position on the right to life did well. Republicans who did not articulate their position and allowed their position to be defined did not do as well. ... I want to concede a point. We have a ways to go in this issue.

When my wife was attacked for teaching at a Christian school, when one media outlet after another ridiculed our Christian faith from time to time, I was always struck by that. Because as I traveled around America, the words I most often heard, and I heard them every day, where people would reach out across a rope line or stop me on a street corner and say,"I'm praying for you." I mean, this is a nation of faith, of different faiths.

I don't believe anyone should ever be harassed or discriminated against because of who they are, who they love or what they believe. But that being said, there are profound implications on this question, as Justice Kennedy wrote in thedecision, that bear upon religious freedom — and the courts have been sorting through that ever since.

This interview was produced by Phil Harrell and Nick Michael and edited by HJ Mai. Rachel Treisman adapted it for the web.

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