Substack’s writer in residence weighs in on the Johnny Depp v Amber Heard trial
has never shied away from engaging with the difficult, knotty subjects that dog our time. Her novella[2019] was a compelling and nuanced exploration of the Me Too movement, raising more questions than it answered and refusing to conform to a tidy, morally legible conclusion.
In a conversation over Zoom, Gaitskill discusses traversing the online-offline dichotomy, the perils of being an introvert on the internet, the disembodying effect of modernity, and the persuasive power of sexual charisma.Emily Dinsdale: I wondered if we could begin by talking about your intentions for writing on Substack, and if you had a manifesto in mind?
ED: You’ve been reluctant to write online in the past. Can we talk about the online/offline dichotomy? And the ways you might have found writing these Substack dispatches different from your usual forms of writing? ED: So this format allows you the immediacy of something like Twitter, but in a much more expansive way?
I think a lot of the reason people love Johnny Depp is because of his sexual success and his beauty. Men admire other men who can dominate women and who can have sex with as many women as they want. And that’s what Johnny Depp looks like. Same thing with OJ Simpson a long time ago. Even with all the racism in this country, he was really sexually attractive to a lot of women. And I think that’s part of the reason he won the case.
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