.KimKardashian not only understood the changes that were beginning to disrupt much of the culture; she herself demonstrably shifted it, altering the way we understand fame and even the internet. She spoke with JonnyVanMeter
Photo: Ruven Afanador for New York Magazine. Styling by Law Roach. Catsuit by Alexander Wang. Earrings by Tiffany & Co. As the decade began, there were reasons to be optimistic: America had elected its first black president, and the world hadn’t cascaded into total financial collapse. Obamacare, for all its flaws, was passed, and then came the Iran deal and the Paris climate accords.
Another way that I measure my time line, which is really ridiculous to a lot of people, but it’s my reality, is my glam periods. In the beginning of the decade, I was always wearing Louboutin heels. It was always about big, wavy hair, parted down the middle. We were doing everything as sisters at that point. The trio of Kourtney, Kim, and Khloe. Always leopard dresses and skintight Hervé Léger, shopping at Intermix. And then I began kind of elevating from that.
What else has changed since 2010? There’s a sense I have that you’ve been dressing a little less sexy recently. You should see what he’s working on now. All home stuff. He’s fascinated with buildings and homes. He wants to do low-income housing, and have the design be elevated: simple and cool and affordable. He really supports James Turrell in his Crater and they’re working on stuff together that will be exciting. He’s building the community.
I am going to go and visit him on Friday. My attorneys are in communication with his attorneys and really helping out. I can go because of my attorney-client privilege; I’m in an internship program in law school. He will be moved to the death chambers, ready for execution, which is in a different section—even separate from death row. I’ve never been to anything like that before. I’ve been to death row at San Quentin. I am still very hopeful.
I don’t care who it is. I’m just glad someone is listening and making a change. I hope to have an amazing relationship with the next president. I hope to still have a voice for people on the inside, who do not care at all who signs their commutation paper.Absolutely not. I’m just as surprised as everyone else.People do ask that, and I’m like, “No, not really.” I do feel like I have really good values, but that’s not what I’m looking to do. I hope that I will always be … advising in some way.
Oprah once said to me, “People often ask, ‘Who is the next Oprah?’ And the truth is there won’t be a ‘next Oprah.’ ” What she was really saying is that the stars had aligned and that it would never happen again in quite that way. Could your success be replicated? But it’s kind of like they’re searching for authenticity, and then sometimes, when they get it, they want to cancel it.Oh, I don’t remember that. Photo: Ruven Afanador for New York Magazine. Jacket by Pamella Rolland from Cloak Wardrobe. Bodysuit by SKIMS. Tights by Wolford. Earrings by Tiffany & Co. Do you remember your first tweet?
Yeah. I thought it was great, too. We didn’t think about it, you know? Now people come to us and say, “Oh, you guys planned that, didn’t you? That was too good of a buzz.” I was like, Yeah, I wish. Like, I have millions of garments I’m stuck with. I would never try to offend a culture or lose out on all this potential product. After the fact, Kendall was saying to me, “But I was so confused by the name Kimono because it’s, like, are you selling kimonos? You’re selling underwear.
Over this past decade, it seemed to me that the culture came to accept body modification and plastic surgery in a different way. It stopped being a secret. But there’s so many more things like that that have changed. I think the Me Too culture goes into the cancel-culture realm, where maybe … Well, I don’t want to speak for people who have been sexually assaulted because I actually don’t know what that’s like. But even just finding love in the workplace … That used to be the only way, you know. So many of my parents’ friends married their secretaries, and were together for 40 years, and have children together.
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