“I have found, and it’s proven time and time again: stick with the science, stay completely out of the politics,” says Dr. Fauci. “I have no ideology. My ideology is health, public health, and science”
Since mid-January, when it became clear that the novel coronavirus had escaped from Wuhan and would make its way to the United States, Dr.has been waging a war—a war of persuasion. He’s had to convince a diverse, federalist, hyper-partisan country to take the threat of the virus seriously. And in order to do that, he’s had to first convince PresidentThis has posed certain challenges, and certain risks. “I take the tack that I will say what’s true and whatever happens, happens,” Fauci told me.
Well, it was the very beginning of January when there was a report from China that there were about 24 cases and it was incorrectly thought to be only animal-to-human spreading. And in Wuhan, as it turned out there, it was very likely that there was human-to-human spreading weeks before the outbreak in the wet market.Well, I was sitting right where I’m sitting right now, right in my office [at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland].
Yeah. But as soon as we started to see that there were cases in the United States, and then at the time when it became clear that there was community spread, then we knew that we really were in for a very difficult situation. Once you had community spread, we realized all bets are off. And we knew we were in for a very serious problem.
Well, I just stick very strictly to the science and the evidence base. I’m not new to this. I’ve been doing this now for over 30 years, starting with the HIV/AIDS issues with President [Ronald] Reagan, and I have found, and it’s proven time and time again: stick with the science, stay completely out of the politics. I have no ideology. My ideology is health, public health, and science. You do that. You can make it uncomplicated.
The press has written a lot about your relationship with Trump and the fears that your contradictions of him would force him to either sideline you or fire you. Have you worried about that? How much has that been on your mind? Got it. I’ve read been reading history about the 1918 pandemic and a lot of people are now starting to talk about the quote “second wave” that could be coming our way in the fall. How prepared should we be? Some people have the notion that once the restrictions are lifted, whether it’s in May or June, that we’re going to be out of the woods. Is that true?
We’re good friends. We’ve been good friends for decades. We’re very comfortable working with each other.
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