On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, former Vice President Mike Pence and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie join Nancy Cordes.
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We will talk to Pence, along with former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, who feels much differently.QUESTION: Have you seen Donald Trump's mug shot yet?PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Handsome guy. Wonderful guy. All three of the victims were black. Police say the suspect was motivated by hate when he walked into the store Saturday afternoon, wearing a mask and tactical vest.CRISTIAN BENAVIDES: In writings left behind by the gunman, who is described as a white man in his early 20s, authorities say he described his hateful ideology.
CRISTIAN BENAVIDES: The shooting happened less than a mile from Edward Waters University, a historically black university. But -- but, look, I -- this issue of mass shootings is one that I think we need leadership in this country afresh. I -- I -- I will tell you that I believe that the -- there's a series of steps that we can take, providing law enforcement with the support that they need, ending this -- this long experiment of defunding the police by the American left.
NANCY CORDES: Can you tell us what it felt like to get that kind of validation from your fellow Republican leaders, after all the abuse you've taken from the MAGA wing of your party for the past 2.5 years for that, for simply doing your job on January 6?But it -- it wasn't anything new. Frankly, as I have traveled around this country for the last 2.
And I welcome the chance to contrast my longstanding commitment to the conservative agenda to -- and -- and frankly, the fact that I believe, in all humility, that I'm -- I'm the most qualified and the most tested candidate in this race, not only with Vivek, who I have known for several years, but for everybody else on the stage.
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Well, look, I -- I signed a pledge to be on that stage to say that I would support the Republican nominee. So, I will support the Republican nominee and -- and I'm going to continue to work my heart out to make sure that it's me. And that was before two of the indictments. These fees are only going to go through the roof. And Donald Trump maybe should sell one of his golf courses or maybe sell his apartment at Trump Tower to fund it. But, instead, he's taking people who donate an average of $100 to him to try to get him to become president of the United States again, and he's using that money to pay his legal fees.
And that was standing in front of the cameras from the White House behind the seal of the president on election night and telling people the election was stolen and for now three years, nearly, continuing to say the same thing, with absolutely no proof and no evidence. That's the problem, Nancy. NANCY CORDES: One of Trump's 18 co-defendants in Fulton County is his former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who you know.
The only thing that will be different are some of the procedural things that lawyers care about. But, in the end, all of the charges must remain the same. So I think that whether Mark Meadows wins that motion or doesn't is not going to make a substantive difference on how ultimately a jury is going to be asked to make these decisions at the time of trial.
Look, I think there are ways to get this done. I think we have to use our intelligence assets. We have to be much tougher and stronger at the border to prevent people from coming through, finish the wall that Donald Trump never finished, only built 52 miles of in four years. They would be working with Customs and Border Patrol folks hand in hand. They can effectuate the arrest. But you obviously need greater force there to prevent them from coming over the border in the first place. And so it's a combination of the two of them. Customs and Border Patrol would still be the law enforcement agency.
I -- I talk to a lot of voters that are frustrated with both the Republican and Democrat Party. Both parties have put us on the spending cliff. You talk about childcare cliff, which we'll talk about in a moment. But both parties have contributed to the inflation that we have today, the out-of- control spending, the debt ceiling that's going to add almost $20 trillion to the debt over the next 10 years.
The President has a great story to tell. He's bringing back manufacturing in Ohio, $20 billion in Ohio of new industry. He is focused on the working class. I was actually just in South Carolina yesterday with Bishop Green at AME Church, and the faith community has a lot of support for him.NANCY CORDES: Congresswoman Mace, you are pro-life, but you've also said your party's too extreme on abortion.
And I do want to add that I know that you were praising President Biden, the story that he has to tell, but the story he won't tell is a story about his family's business. He has lied every single time he's been asked about his family's business. He's lied about his involvement. He had a pseudonym. NANCY CORDES: Well, when we come back, we're going to get to a topic you both do agree on. And that's childcare.
These numbers are really frightening. What can the two of you do about it and how quickly can you get legislation together so that Congress could consider it before the deadline? NANCY MACE: Well, I actually think it's less government, not more, that's getting in the way of this. We saw in December of 2018, when the Azar report came through making recommendations to states about health care policy and certificate of need, the same kind of thing could be said for, what are some of the easy, low hanging fruit regulations that we can roll back or eradicate or recommend go away.
NANCY CORDES: And it is so important because we've seen study after study that shows that early childhood education makes such a huge difference in outcomes later in life. So, we really hope you're successful.NANCY CORDES: Congresswoman Nancy Mace, Congressman Ro Khanna, appreciate it and appreciate you being here today.NANCY CORDES: This Monday marks the 60th anniversary of Martin Luther King's Jr."I have a dream" speech that he made at the 1963 March on Washington.
But, you know, really being out there on the mall yesterday, 60 years later, it was palpable the amount of frustration and concern there is 60 years later. You know, we talk about how far we have come as a country, and yet, for many, particularly in the African American community, there is a sense that we're still fighting the same battles, whether that's issues of hate crimes and racial violence, whether that's the issue of the rollback of affirmative action, voting rights.
What you're also watching in Georgia right now is the push by Mark Meadows, the former chief of staff, to have this trial move from being a Georgia case at the state Fulton County level, to being a federal case. So, there are many dynamics at play, multiple legal fronts, all as the political battleground also unfolds.
SCOTT MACFARLANE: We will find out tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. Eastern Time. The judge in Washington, D.C., determines the trial date. And this is a Mars and Venus type of world. The prosecution wants it January 2nd. And, as you mentioned, Trump's team wants it 2026. NANCY CORDES: A lot of people wondering why a billionaire would have to go through a bail bondsman to post a $200,000 bail.
BECKER: Yes. It's 1,027 days since that November 2020 election. The most scrutinized election in American history with more paper ballots, audits, recounts, more pre-election litigation, more post-election litigation confirming the results than ever before. And election officials are still, to this day, almost three years after that, having to debunk lies about that election, having to defend their own patriotism, their own service to our country, playing an endless game of Wack-a-mole.
David Becker, Robert Costa, Nikole Killion, Scott MacFarlane, thank you all for being here today. Appreciate it.Russia's investigative committee confirmed today that the remains of Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin have been positively identified, along with the nine others who died in a plane crash last week.
FIONA HILL: Well, we don't know exactly how the aircraft was brought down yet, but I guess we'll find out more as things go along. I mean I'm sure, again, that the Russian government, the Kremlin, will accuse all kinds of other people about carrying out this act, if it seemed to be the result of an explosive device, you know, for example.
But, look, he took down a proportional number of people in a Russian military aircraft, as you've just said here. So, again, there is a symmetry and a symbolism all of it -- in all of this that is inescapable in the Russian domestic context, as well as for the rest of us watching it from the outside.
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