E. Jean Carroll told two people about her alleged rape. This is what they remember.

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E. Jean Carroll told her friends Lisa Birnbach and Carol Martin about her alleged rape by Trump. Today, the women reveal details about those conversations.

Writer E. Jean Carroll came forward last week with a rape allegation against President Donald Trump, and on Thursday the two women she privately confided in after the alleged assault spoke publicly for the first time.

Carroll recalls in the podcast that she fought back vigorously during the alleged assault. Afterward, she ran out of the department store, got onto 6th Avenue, pulled her phone out of her purse and called Birnbach, who was home on the Upper East Side with her two kids, then aged 6 and 3. Fearing Trump was too powerful to take on, Martin's advice to Carroll was the opposite of Birnbach's. She remembers telling Carroll,"Don't tell anybody. I wouldn't tell anybody this."

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