SPOILER ALERT: This interview contains spoilers for Season 4, Episode 5 of “Barry,” now streaming on HBO Max. Last week’s episode of “Barry” ended on one of the show’s …
) appeared to be several years older and living in a house in the desert with a young son. The HBO show has toyed with flashbacks and dream-like sequences before, and Sunday’s newest episode didn’t reveal what was going on until the final minutes…The end of last week’s episode actually moved ahead eight years, during which Barry and Sally have evaded public recognition after he escaped prison. They’re living under brand-new identities, Clark and Emily, and raising their son, John.
I could already imagine cinematically it was going to be really elegantly shot, which it was, and there were “Paris, Texas” references and inspiration from Bill. I was thrilled and very shocked. The moment that dropped in my stomach the most was the bathroom scene. That was something they hadn’t talked to me about before reading, and I just had no idea where that was gonna go.
I can’t imagine what Sally’s labor was like. That would have been a curious episode. I can’t imagine that went very well or they were in an actual hospital. That’s why there’s the moment in Episode 2 when Sally says, “I feel safe with you.” The idea is that she’s been through so much in her life and she’s been through abusive relationships. Barry was the one person who witnessed her crime and her most animal self in this terrible thing that she did, and he chooses to love her anyway. Sally’s the only character in the show who murders someone when murder isn’t a part of her regular life and isn’t her career.
So I think that she’s struggling to accept her reality, because it doesn’t feel like a reality, hence the drinking and the persona. Her own upbringing definitely has colored her ability to not just be compassionate to her own child, but in life Sally struggles to connect with other people. We’ve seen that over all the seasons in her myopia of her career obsession, and when she wants something so badly she just can’t see past it.
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