As Democrats edge toward impeachment, a look at our 2018 interview with Tom Steyer, the billionaire who has bankrolled the movement to remove Trump. 'Once you don’t speak up against lawlessness, lawlessness is permitted'
reached out to Steyer to talk about the practicality of removing Trump , the risks of “normalizing” the president’s behavior, and whether Steyer himself has greater political ambitions.We feel it’s important to stand up for the American democracy. It’s not much more complicated than that. We believe fighting against a reckless and lawless president is not something that will turn off voters. In fact, doing that kind of thing is the way that you build faith and trust.
And then the question is: Are these important things? Impeachment is a political act. I’m aware of that. For it to happen, this can’t be a partisan thing. We’re not choosing a president. We’re getting rid of a president, and the next president would be a conservative Republican from Indiana. But there’s something else going on here. We’re seeing the president break the law and diminish our democracy on a daily basis.
Can I address that, since you just threw kerosene onto the fire? The normal checks and balances are for the Senate Judiciary and the House Judiciary Committee to investigate the president’s behavior – that is not happening. So you can believe in checks and balances as much as you want, but that is not the real world.
OK, so say Democrats recapture the House and tee up the articles of impeachment. To play devil’s advocate – unless you’ve got a huge Senate majority , don’t you risk acquittal? Wouldn’t that “normalize” the things Trump has done even more? The question that I’m trying to zero in on is, is it politically possible to achieve a conviction on articles of impeachment?
There’s a separate question about what’s right – that I feel really strongly about. And there’s a third question about what is politically expedient in 2018. I will apologize for the sports analogy, but I’m with [storied former UCLA basketball coach] John Wooden – which is, we play our game. We stand up for our values. We tell what we think is the truth, and that’s what motivates our team to go out and play.
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